Veggies

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I know that many people might not believe it, but sometimes I need to “sneak” vegetables into my diet.  Being a registered dietitian, I am sure this seems odd!  Sometimes I do find myself craving a big, crispy salad or string beans, but there are also many other times when I am not feeling like vegetables, no matter how healthy I know they are. We all know that veggies have so many wonderful vitamins and minerals and are important for overall health. So, what’s a dietitian to do when veggies do not seem so appealing?

Well, in times like these, I try to squeeze veggies into my meals and snacks as much as I can.  At breakfast, I will add spinach or broccoli to my omelet and have it with salsa.  For a post-workout snack, I have been making a green smoothie using baby spinach or kale, almond milk, yogurt, and banana.  It’s amazing how you cannot taste the spinach at all in the smoothie – it tastes just like a banana shake!  With dinner, I try to mix cooked veggies into at least one part of the meal.  If I am having mac and cheese, for example, I will mix in some frozen peas or broccoli florets.  If pizza is for dinner, I will add peppers and onions for toppings.  And of course, veggie-based soups, like zucchini bisque, are an easy way to increase one’s veggie quotient.

Many of my clients struggle with their vegetable intake, and I completely understand this.  However, it is easier to sneak these nutrient-packed superstars than you may think.  Get creative! 

Did I really post weight loss advice?

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Earlier this week, I posted a blog by Joan Salge Blake, a nutrition professor at Boston University, in which she discussed a research study that looked at the impact of calorie distribution on weight loss.  The researchers found that subjects who consumed a large breakfast and small dinner lost more weight than subjects who consumed the same number of calories, but flip flopped their breakfast and dinner intakes.

Those of you familiar with how we work might have been surprised to see me post an article that seemed to give weight loss advice.  Our treatment philosophy is in line with the reality that when people eat well and are physically active, weight tends to take care of itself.  On the other hand, when people make weight loss in and of itself too much of a priority, they are likely to take approaches that can be unsustainable, unhealthy, and sometimes dangerous.  Then they blame themselves and a supposed lack of willpower when the real problem was the approach.  Because I have held this stance for years, my decision to post what looks to be a weight loss advice article probably seems a bit contradictory.

But it really isn’t, and here’s why: Even though the blog does discuss weight loss, I see it as more about health than weight.  Professor Blake wrote, “Since the hormone ghrelin, which increases your appetite, was lower during the day in the breakfast group, these women also experienced higher levels of satiety, or that filling of fullness, throughout the day.  In addition, large breakfast eaters also had significantly lower levels of insulin, glucose, and fat in their blood, which may help lower the risk of diabetes and heart disease.”

In other words, the subject group that consumed the larger breakfast seemed to be healthier than the group that consumed more calories later in the day.  They had better blood markers, felt more satisfied, and were in a better position to make sound food choices later in the day.

And yes, they lost more weight than the other group too, but that only reinforces the point I made earlier: When we make lifestyle choices that make us healthier, weight usually takes care of itself.

He Said, She Said: Sports Drinks vs. Water

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The definition of “proper hydration” not only varies from person to person, but also depends on the circumstances. Given the abundance of fluid choices on the market, we certainly understand why people question what is best and how much to have.

He Said

As the duration of our exercise session increases, especially if we are working out in the heat, the more likely we are to benefit from more than just plain water. In addition to replenishing fluid, we need to replace the electrolytes lost in sweat and the carbohydrates we metabolize for energy. Juice usually does not cut it, as the sodium concentration is too low and the abundance of fructose can cause gastrointestinal distress. For many athletes, sports drinks are the answer.

Commercial products, such as Gatorade and PowerAde, are popular options as is coconut water. Most of these offer a balanced blend of sugars, which increases gastrointestinal tolerance and absorption rate. One drawback to coconut water, however, is low sodium content. Many athletes, especially those whose sweat leaves white salt marks on their clothing, may benefit by adding extra salt to their coconut water.

We can typically control what we drink during training and sports where we can keep our beverage of choice on the sidelines, but the same is not always true during endurance events. Fuel belts and fluid backpacks can help, but their weight and bulk can hinder performance. Sometimes we are at the mercy of whatever the race director gives us. In this case, find out in advance (Check the race’s website and/or contact the race director.) what will be provided and practice with it in your training. If you perform well with it, great; if not, use the time to formulate a Plan B. For example, station along the route friends who can hand you your beverage of choice as you pass by.

Remember that perhaps no area of nutrition is more individualized than sports nutrition, so experiment during your training to figure out what has you performing your best. To the fullest extent possible, avoid drinking anything during competition that you have not tolerated during practice.

She Said

Why do we need water? Well, the wet stuff is for more than just quenching your thirst; every system in the human body depends on it (and your body is made up of 60-75% water). You need water to regulate your body temperature, lubricate your joints, flush toxins from your body, protect body organs and tissues, and carry nutrients and oxygen to cells. So, clearly, we need water to live!

I’m sure many of you have heard the advice “drink eight 8-ounce glasses of water each day,” and while that figure is not too off-target, it’s not a hard and fast rule. The Institute of Medicine determined that an adequate fluid intake for women is about 2.2 liters (approximately 9 cups) of total beverages a day; for men, it’s about 3 liters, or 13 cups. To reach these amounts, you can include the water that naturally occurs in many fruits and vegetables, soups, and beverages other than water, as all fluids count toward this daily total.

Of course, the above figures are averages, not exact numbers. Adequate hydration varies from person to person. Some people simply need more fluids, while others need less. To assess hydration status, I often tell my patients to look at their urine, as it can be an excellent indicator of dehydration. If your urine is very light yellow, almost clear, you are adequately hydrated. Dark yellow? Then you most likely need to up your fluids. In the end, pay attention to your body’s thirst cues – your body has more wisdom than you think.

Extreme Measures

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The other night, I was watching the show 20/20 on ABC, and I was horrified to see a story they were doing on the “Tongue Patch Diet.”  The procedure entails having a piece of hard plastic mesh temporarily sewn onto one’s tongue, the purpose of which is to inflict pain if the individual tries to eat any solid food.  Apparently, this technique originated in Latin America and is all the rage, with 800 individuals undergoing the procedure at one Venezuelan clinic.  After the patch is put in place, the individual is then put on a strict, 800-calorie-per-day liquid diet or shakes and low-calorie beverages for one month.  In addition, the individual must exercise 45 minutes per day.  After all is said and done, the individual would be expected to lose between 18-20 pounds.

This bizarre intervention made me think back to the absolutely crazy “K-E Diet” aka “Feeding Tube Diet” featured on a number of news shows last year, which involves having a doctor place a nasogastric feeding tube into an individual for 10 days, preventing the person from being able to orally eat anything for that period of time.  The patient carries around a solution in a bag or purse, which delivers 800 calories per day of protein, fats, and water through the nasogastric tube directly into the stomach.  Given that the patient is not taking in any carbohydrates, he or she will be put into a state of ketosis, during which the body burns fat instead of carbohydrate.  In similar fashion to the “Tongue Patch Diet,” the individual can expect to lose up to 20 lbs in only 10 days.

There are many things that disturb me about the above procedures. Both are unrealistic and potentially life-threatening techniques to achieve weight loss.  Obviously, since both are basically very low-calorie diets, the individuals will lose weight quickly.  And as I have spoken about numerous times, using drastic measures to lose weight quickly almost always results in gaining the weight back and then some.  As for the “Feeding Tube Diet,” while being in ketosis might not be harmful in the very short-term, long-term ketosis can result in serious kidney and liver damage.  And since our brain almost exclusively uses glucose (the breakdown of carbohydrate) for energy, going low-carb leads to “brain fog,” where the individual feels groggy, fatigued, unable to concentrate, and irritable.

The “Tongue Patch Diet,” honestly makes me feel queasy. The thought of putting something into one’s body to inflict pain on oneself for eating solid food just seems barbaric.  Why don’t you just hire someone to hit you over the head with a hammer every time you pick up a French fry?!

What I think disturbs me the most about the above is that there are doctors out there who believe these procedures are totally legit and health promoting.  This sends a really hurtful and potentially dangerous message to millions of people who are desperate to lose weight.  If a patient came into my office and mentioned wanting to try out one of these procedures, I would recommend considering the following: Does this seem extreme?  Does he or she feel like this is something that will promote or hinder his or her health?  When the tongue patch/feeding tube comes out, how is he or she going to eat healthfully?  Hopefully after thinking things through, he or she will reconsider these dangerous methods and instead work on healthy, safe, and maintainable nutrition changes.

Mountain Goats

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Congratulations to everybody who competed in Sunday’s USA Mountain Running Championships and NACAC (North American, Caribbean, Central American) Mountain Running Championships race at Cranmore!  The event attracted the continent’s best mountain runners.  Why the field was even open to the likes of me, I have no idea.

Because we were running on a lap course, I had a chance to see North America’s elite mountain runners up close as they lapped me.  Joseph Gray, on his way to the finish line and about to repeat as North America’s mountain-running champion, passed me as we were going up a steep and uneven section of trail.  His level of exertion appeared to equal that which I display while taking a nap.

As amazing as his performance was, I was even more impressed by my friend Darrin, of the Hartford-based Beat City Milers, who rebounded from a tough start to the season and came out of nowhere to win second place in his age group.  He went from disappointing finishes in May to now possessing a silver medal from USA Track and Field declaring him North America’s runner-up mountain-running champion for his age group.  The award reflects how hard he has worked this spring and summer.

Personally, I had a disappointing race.  My legs were unexpectedly tired during warm-ups and I felt winded after a couple minutes of jogging, both of which were red flags that something was wrong.  In an effort to stay positive, I tried telling myself that I would be okay once the race started.  Nope.  I could not get anything going on the steep uphills, nor on the steep downhills, nor on the flat . . . well, there weren’t really any flat parts, but you get the idea.

Oftentimes, we can forecast a bad performance.  Maybe we did not sleep enough, eat right, or fully recover from a previous race/workout.  Maybe we have been chronically overtraining or undertraining, or doing the wrong kind of training.  Maybe we are returning from a layoff or dealing with an illness or injury.  When one or more of these factors are in play, we can expect a subpar performance.

Other times though, bad days come out of the blue without a clear cause.  It goes both ways though – I have had great runs come out of nowhere when I least expected it too – and either way we have to play the hand we are dealt.  We all have off days sometimes and races do not get postponed because a competitor is having one of them.  The event continues and we just have to give it our best effort, no matter how much or how little that might be.  That’s life, right?

Cranmore was the last race in the USA Track and Field New England Mountain Circuit.  Despite my disappointing performance, I did manage to finish the circuit ranked 21st out of 164 male runners.  In the process, I earned “Mountain Goat” status, meaning that I get direct entry into next year’s Mount Washington road race.

Darrin and Mic, both of the Beat City Milers, and Jonah displaying their Mountain Goat shirts

I got started with mountain racing four years ago after seeing a documentary in which one of the subjects ran the race up Mount Washington.  Joanne and I watched it together.  If I remember correctly, her reaction was “That looks terrible!” while mine was “That looks awesome!”   Six months later, I found myself in that very race for the first time.  If you are similarly curious about trying it, put your name in the lottery and hopefully we will see each other there.

 

Five Red Flags

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Having worked with hundreds of eating disorder (ED) patients and their families, the question I am most often asked by the patients’ parents is “How did I miss the signs?” EDs by nature are a very secretive disease, and those who suffer with them are pros at hiding them.  Despite this, there are some red flags that might signal that your daughter/son/sister/brother/friend could be struggling with an ED.

1. She is obsessed with watching the Food Network and/or cooking shows, finding recipes online, and with baking and/or cooking for others, but rarely partakes in her own creations.

This is a subtle, but clear sign that something is up.  People with EDs are preoccupied with thoughts about food – where to get it, how to prepare it, and what they can/cannot eat.  Therefore, it is natural that they would turn to TV shows about food, cooking magazines/books, and finding online recipes to fuel this obsession.  Of course there is nothing wrong with doing these things per se, but the key is that a person with an ED rarely, if ever, will eat any of the foods she creates.  Instead, she will bake an elaborate cake and offer it to her family and friends to eat while she has none.  In this way, the individual can vicariously enjoy the food without having to eat any of it.

2. He used to eat dinner with the family every night, but now he always says he ate dinner out or at a friend’s house.

Parents want to be able to trust their son or daughter.  If your child tells you that he already ate, you, like most parents, would believe him. But if your child has always eaten dinner with the family and this new behavior becomes a daily occurrence, then something could be up.

3. She used to love going out to eat and to the movies with her friends.  Now it seems like she finds any excuse to avoid these activities.

As mentioned above, one of the cornerstones of EDs is secrecy.  Most teens with EDs are not open about their disorders with their friends, so it would become pretty clear to her friends that something was wrong if she went out to eat with them and did not order any food.  For most individuals with EDs, simply avoiding these situations is the easiest way to keep their ED under wraps.

4. He used to love a wide variety of food, but lately he seems to only eat a few different foods.

There are plenty of kids who are picky eaters.  The red flag arises in the case of a child that formerly was an omnivore who has now started to cut out certain foods/food groups in an obsessive manner.  Usually this elimination happens in the context of a diet (e.g. “I want to lose some weight to be better at running track,”), so he might begin by limiting carbohydrates and fats, but soon the list of unacceptable foods starts to grow.  This could translate to no longer eating fruit because it has “too many carbs,” eating salad without dressing as it has “too much fat,” etc.  If your child will only eat certain “safe” foods and balks at the idea of increasing food variety, you might have a problem on your hands.

5. She all of a sudden wants to be a vegan, but is unclear about why.

Veganism (the omission of any and all animal products from the diet) is not inherently indicative of an ED.  The question to ask would be why the individual wants to become a vegan.  Is it because, for example, she feels that eating animals and their products is cruel or bad for the environment?  Or could it be another way for her to eliminate foods from a previously varied diet?  By declaring oneself vegan, that means that meat, fish, poultry, eggs, dairy, and a slew of other food groups will be off the table.  In a way, veganism can be used by ED individuals as way to legitimize their restriction.  Of course, this is not always the case, and there are plenty of vegans who are not disordered, but figuring out the motive behind this decision is paramount.

Now, am I saying that if your child exhibits one of these red flags that he/she definitely has an ED?  Of course not.  But I think it is important for parents, siblings, and friends to be aware of these subtle signs and to take action if necessary by talking to a professional such as a doctor, therapist, or dietitian who specializes in EDs.  Forewarned is forearmed.

Vegetable Cooking Methods

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Anybody who has read our What Makes Us Different section knows that I am not crazy about oversimplifications.  Yet, I can understand why they happen.  Some topics are just too complex to be explained in a factoid, meme, or sound bite, so information is rounded off and oversimplified in order to shove it into said formats.  This is most certainly the case when it comes to answering the question, “Which cooking method is best for retaining nutrients in vegetables?”

For example, I look on one site and see an illustration endorsing steaming while vilifying microwaving, while another suggests microwaving.  Who is right?  They are both oversimplifying, which is what leads to the apparent contradiction and confusion.  The true answer depends on the exact question being asked, including such factors as the particular vegetable, cooking conditions, and specific nutrient(s) of interest.

To give yourself a sense of the complexity, take a look at this 2009 article in the Journal of Food ScienceScroll down to pages four and five where you see the tables showing the changes in antioxidant activity in the various vegetables after being cooked in different ways.  Don’t worry about the numbers or what the acronyms and terminologies mean.  Let me just call your attention to a few themes.

  1. Cooking a given vegetable in a particular fashion can help in one way and hurt in another.  Multiple tables, not just one, show antioxidant activity because individual nutrients react differently as they are cooked.  For example, according to the tables, microwaving celery reduces its LOO radical scavenging capacity (again, don’t worry about the acronyms and terminology – that’s not the point) while the same exact cooking method actually boosts its OH radical scavenging capacity.
  2. Anybody who preaches the virtues of always eating raw is overgeneralizing; in some cases, cooking can help you get more nutrition out of your foods.  Look at Table 4 and notice all the dashes and negative numbers.  Those dashes indicate no losses after cooking compared to when the vegetable was raw, and negative numbers indicate that the antioxidant activity was increased, not reduced, by cooking.
  3. No single cooking method is going to be best for all vegetables.  Pick almost any column in Table 2, 3, or 4, and you will see it is comprised of positive numbers, negative numbers, and dashes.  Check out the griddling column in Table 2, for example, and you will see eight positive numbers, six negative numbers, and six dashes.  This indicates that griddling reduced LOO radical scavenging capacity in eight of the vegetables, boosted it in six other vegetables, and left it unchanged in the remaining six.
  4. No single study is going to tell us everything we want to know.  Science is much more complex than that.  Consider that this is just one of many studies that investigated the effects of cooking methods on vegetable nutrients.  It examined this particular group of vegetables for changes in three nutrients according to the specific cooking conditions explained in Table 1.  Do you think it might make a difference if they baked the vegetables at 150oC or 250oC rather than 200oC?  What if they cooked the vegetables for half the time, or twice the time?  What if they fried them with sunflower oil instead of olive oil?  What if they used a different variety of onion?  What if they had chosen to examine other nutrients, such as vitamin C or calcium?

Wow, this is getting confusing, isn’t it?  If you are even still reading this, you are probably one of the few (Hi, Mom!) who kept going after the first paragraph or two.  You can see then how tempting it is to oversimplify.  I almost want to do it myself right now, but instead I will leave you with a question.

How do you like your vegetables?

I am reminded of a conversation I had with a patient a few months ago after he switched to me from another dietitian.  His previous dietitian told him which vegetables he should eat raw, which ones he should cook, how he should cook them, etc.  I know she meant well, and I am sure some patients are looking for those kinds of orders.  As this man said to me though, “She should just be happy I am eating any vegetables at all!”  We need to remember that you are neither a lab animal nor a case study in some nutrition school homework assignment.  You are a free-living person with feelings and other factors that influence your decisions.  It isn’t all about numbers.  We need to remember the context.

Personally, I don’t care that microwaving my celery would boost its OH radical scavenging capacity by approximately 39.3%; the idea of softening a vegetable that I enjoy for its crunch sounds pretty unappealing to me.  Just let me have my ants on a log and I’ll go on my merry way.

The Master Cleanse

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Is it just me, or does it feel like almost every celebrity out there has been talking about their latest and greatest cleanse?  You know, the one that helped them to lose 20 pounds in only two weeks, gave them abundant amounts of energy, and helped their bodies remove all of those pesky toxins. 

There are numerous cleanses and detox diets out there, but perhaps the most famous one is the Master Cleanse.  Championed by celebrities like Beyonce and Pink, the Master Cleanse is basically a modified juice fast which promises to detoxify the body while also helping you lose weight fast.  For 4-14 days, the individual must abstain from solid food and is only allowed to ingest a drink made with lemon, maple syrup, cayenne pepper, and water.  After the cleanse is over, the individual is instructed to slowly add solid food back into their diet, starting with things like vegetable soup, followed by fruits and vegetables and so on.

As you can probably guess by now, I am not a fan of the Master Cleanse or any cleanse or detox diet, for that matter.  First of all, yes, you will lose weight on a cleanse, but that is mainly just because you are creating a serious calorie deficit.  Most of that weight will likely be water and muscle tissue, not fat tissue, and your metabolism will slow down to a crawl.  Once you stop the cleanse and return to your old eating habits, you will gain the lost weight back and then some! 

Secondly, you will feel completely cruddy while on the cleanse; most people report nausea, headaches, sluggishness, fatigue, dizziness, and numerous gastrointestinal issues (usually diarrhea and/or constipation).  Thirdly, the lemon-maple syrup-cayenne concoction is almost completely devoid of any nutrition, save for the carbohydrates from the maple syrup and the vitamin C from the lemon.  Your body not only needs protein, fat, and carbohydrate to function, but also the myriad vitamins and minerals that a healthy diet provides.

Finally, your body does a perfectly good job of detoxification without the aid of a cleanse.  Your liver, spleen, lungs, and kidneys are already pros at keeping you healthy!

So, skip the cleanse. Your body will thank you.

He Said, She Said: Ice Cream vs. Frozen Yogurt

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Whether we are standing in the frozen foods aisle peering through frosty glass doors or holding up the line at the local ice cream shop, the choice many of us struggle to make is the same: do we opt for the frozen yogurt, or do we go for the ice cream?

He Said

Back about a decade ago, I went through a phase where I was modifying cookie recipes in all sorts of ways in an effort to make them healthier: nuts and dried fruit instead of chocolate chips, oil instead of butter, whole wheat instead of white flour, reduced sugar, etc. These changes sounded good in theory, but who was I kidding; these “cookies” were only cookies by name and bore a stronger resemblance to pancakes.

They never quite hit the spot. Either I ate the healthier cookies by the batch in an effort to quell my cookie craving, or I chased them with traditional baked goods anyway.

What does any of that have to do with the ice cream vs. frozen yogurt debate? Just like with my cookie experience, we want to be careful not to get so caught up in nutrition that we neglect pleasure, for if we do, the irony is that we often end up losing out on both.

Frozen yogurt does have some nutrient benefits compared to ice cream (See “She Said” section below.) However, if frozen yogurt is going to leave you still craving ice cream, and you are going to overeat in an effort to satisfy that desire, then perhaps it is better to just have a small amount of ice cream when the craving sets in, enjoy it, and get on with your day.

She Said

So many of my clients have a love/hate relationship with ice cream. Most of them would admit that they adore real, full-fat ice cream, but they often deny themselves this treat for fear that it will make them fat. Instead, they end up eating at one of the myriad frozen yogurt stores (with new ones popping up seemingly every week) to get their cool, creamy fix.

I don’t have a problem with frozen yogurt per se. It has a lot of things going for it, including being lower in saturated fat and a good source of protein and calcium as well as providing probiotics. But ice cream also has nutrition benefits: it is a good source of calcium, vitamin D, vitamin A, and some of the B vitamins that help with energy release. In addition, given its richness, it takes a smaller amount of ice cream (compared to frozen yogurt) to be satisfying. And let’s face it, when you are really craving ice cream, a fro-yo just doesn’t cut it!

I’m not suggesting that anyone go out there and begin a Ben & Jerry’s binge, but totally denying yourself one of summer’s most quintessential treats will just lead to feelings of deprivation and eventually overeating of less satisfying foods. So go ahead and order that real ice cream – just be sure to savor and enjoy it!

Self-Disclosure

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When I get together with other practitioners to discuss best practices and challenges, a topic that frequently arises is self-disclosure.  In other words, to what extent do we share personal information with our patients, and what do we keep to ourselves?  Patients often want to learn about the person treating them, while sharing information can sometimes unexpectedly garner a negative reaction.  It’s a tough call and there is not necessarily a right answer.

Joanne and I have our autobiographies on our website.  Last week, a new patient said to me, “I almost didn’t come today after reading what a great athlete you are,” as she explained her intimidation.  While her “great athlete” categorization was flattering, I disagree that the label fits me, as would the thousands of athletes who have beaten me in races and tennis matches over the years.  I doubt those who watched me finish in 86th place at last weekend’s Loon Mountain Race, or who witnessed my trademarked swing-and-miss overhead during my years as a competitive tennis player, said to themselves, “Now, there’s a great athlete.”

Issues of perspective and comparison aside, the way I look at it – and I have held this opinion for years, even before I became a practitioner myself – the question is not what the practitioner does in his or her own life, but rather whether or not said practitioner can help the patient.  I never asked my neurosurgeon if he had undergone back surgery himself; I just wanted to know that he would perform the operation successfully on me.  Similarly, the patient I mentioned was overemphasizing the relevance of my own athletic background when the real question should have been whether or not I could help her towards her own goals.

Consider the classic example of a doctor who tells his patient not to smoke, then steps outside and has a cigarette himself.  People call him a hypocrite, but does his behavior really have an impact on patient care?  In other words, does the doctor being a smoker suddenly make it more or less healthy for his patients to smoke?  Of course not; they are independent.  All it means is that the doctor is human too and is dealing with his own stuff, just like we all are.

Last month, I went out to dinner with some of my friends to celebrate one of them just having finished her master’s program.  I ordered a root beer, to which one of my friends reacted, “So you don’t practice what you preach.”  I explained that in fact I do, that I encourage people to find balance, the middle ground that is right for each of them, because all-or-nothing dietary approaches fail nearly 100% of the time.  I love soda, I think it tastes great, and I would be sad to never have it.  If I tried to cut it out entirely, I would probably snap back like an elastic band and drink a two-liter bottle.  At the same time, I understand it is not the healthiest beverage for me and drinking it all the time would be detrimental to both my health and goals.  So, I save it for occasions when I feel like it will really hit the spot.

That example really illustrates what I hope people gain from my use of self-disclosure.  I would never tell anybody to exercise or eat specifically the way that I do.  Why would I advise someone else to live his or her life the way that I lead mine when the reality is that we are all unique individuals with our own goals, needs, priorities, and constraints?  What I hope people take away from my self-disclosure is that I am a guy who is working through his personal challenges to maintain balance and achieve his goals, and hopefully my patients find some inspiration in that as they strive to do the same in their own lives.